up mechanics, house intelligence chairman mike rogers is here. >>> i'm joined now by chairman mike rogers. thank you for being here. stoo huh for having me back. >> tell me what we now know about what happened in benghazi in the murder of those four americans? >> there's still a little bit of confusion, but it's very clear, as even i said last week, this had to be a preplanned event. we know it was an act of terrorism. i think the administration has come to the conclusion it's an act of terrorism now. we had two separate events. you see what's playing on now with people trying to get their militias under control, which those -- that's been a huge problem. i think this is more than that. this is clearly a specific attack on our u.s. embassy, and it kills a u.s. -- well, that's still unclear. there's still some indication that they may have, in fact, known the ambassador was either there or in the area at the time of the attack, but 9/11 is probably more important to that equation hand even the ambassador. i do think this was wildly successful even beyond their dreams to be able to kill, yo